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Monday, February 15, 2016
Lena's Spaghetti - for Comm 130
Read Lena's Spaghetti and answer the following:
1. Does the script follow the Hollywood or Independent model? Why? Give examples
2. Do you like or dislike this screenplay? Why?
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I strongly believe that this script follows the Hollywood model. The story follows two people and their similar personal struggles, and how their relationship helps them overcome their problems. The characters while not always the happiest are can do characters in that they actively attempt to solve their problem, through their letters. The plot challenges the characters because the relationship building between the main characters is fantastical. If the relationship became more than letters it would quickly become a disturbing movie. Instead the characters learn that the relationship has to end but they can use their experience and reinvigorated morale to solve their current problems. The script ends on a positive note with our MC's overcoming their difficulties and building real relationships: Hannah with JJ and Herbie with Adele. The story follows the three act structure quite strongly as well. The first act ends when Hannah sees the personal ad and the second act ends when she realizes she needs to end the relationship.
This was, in my opinion, the best screenplay we've read. It has good pacing and is clear and enjoyable to read. Character development is finely balanced between dialogue and actions/ descriptions. There is little to no wasted dialogue. The story is always moving towards its conclusion. One of the few things that had me confused (perhaps just due to a lack of my own formatting knowledge) was the End Credits note on the second page. I spent the next few scenes confused and thinking more about that then what was currently going on. I personally find the last scene with the girls playing with the soccer ball in the street to be a bit too quick of a transition relative to the pacing of other events and a bit cheesy.
I think the script follows the independent model. Neither Hannah nor Herbie are particularly can do characters, striving to reach their own ending. Hannah doesn't go looking for being Herbie's pen pal but stumbles across it in the paper, if anything her initial goal would be to return home, or to get Adam's attention. She only writes him to have someone to talk to, it's not as if she is looking to fix all her problems by writing him. Same goes for Herbie. He just wants mail, he is not thinking this will end in him getting a date with Adele and being a more inspired painter. The film also follows the independent structure act wise, it is about half act 1 and half act 2. Act 1 is not the set up of a problem which the main characters realize they need to solve, but simply the showing of their lives. Also, the film like many independent films has a visual art feeling, with not very much dialogue, a focus on particular visuals tells a lot about the story. The focus is not on plot but character development, although there is of course a plot.
I think this script is definitely an independent model. The screenplay switches back and forth between Herbie and Hannahs story lines. There is no clear, distinct goal for both of them, it is only assumed that they both want a friend. Though this was achieved, the main point of the story was that the two of them gained an inherent sense of confidence from being pen pals. Both utilize the pen pal situation for different reasons. I really really enjoyed this screenplay. I thought it was cute and kept the reader interested throughout the entire screenplay. I am really excited to watch the actual film.
I believe this script follows the independent model. First, neither of the main characters were the can-do character type. Herbie wasn't actively searching for a new woman in his life and Hannah turned to being in solitude rather than actively searching for a new friend. Neither them were completely goal oriented-either. Sure, Herbie's goal was to find a woman, but he didn't do anything about it until his mother pushed him to and when he did set out to complete his goal, it was in a passive way, inviting women to mail him first. The story wasn't dominated by plot either. Sure, Hannah's world was changed when she moved, but that new limitation didn't cause her to become a hero. The story mostly followed Herbie and Hannah's post cards to each other and showed their daily lives without anything spectacular or overdramatic happening. The primary influences here were painting and writing, which follow the typical independent model.
(cont't.) I actually liked this screenplay. It was clever and kept me interested to wonder what would happen next. I really like how detailed this screenplay was and how even the music notes gave insight into the feelings of the scenes and let the reader know exactly what to expect. Interested to see how it turned out based on her notes.
This screenplay follows the independent model. The main characters Hannah and Herb lack specific goals. In fact, Herb is hiding from the adversity of putting himself out there in person to meet women, much to his mother's dismay, while Hannah is hiding from the adversity of facing her peers, like Adam, to make friends. Herb is only motivated to search for a woman when his mom begins to bother him enough, even going so far as to suggesting dates with specific women. Hannah is only motivated to search for a pen pal when she cannot make any friends of her own; she would rather be in solitude than comradeship. The audience merely watches them avoid challenges rather than tackling them. There is a lack of plot or organized events. Herb and Hannah go about their daily lives without much change than the postcards that they exchange.
Out of the three screenplays, I admired this one the most. Although there appeared to be a resolution, it was mostly implied, leaving the audience to their imaginations. I also liked how it did not focus on one character but two and their stories. Although they never interacted together aside from postcards, I grew to understand their personalities and characters.
Although not as easy to distinguish at first, I believe Lena's Spaghetti falls under the Hollywood model screenplay. Both characters seem to be relatively goal-oriented and do take action. Herbie becomes a hero by stepping outside of his comfort zone and placing an ad in the paper; and Hannah becomes a hero by seizing the opportunity and replying to him. The screenplay also has a clear 3-act structure which was very easy to identify (at least in my mind). In addition, the story is mainly plot driven, although the characters themselves do play a very important part. What could have been confusing to some (and a reason a few people might recognize it as an independent model) is the fact that both characters seem to be very sad and passive in some regard. They are shown as outsiders, which is not typically how we would imagine a Hollywood model screenplay character. However, I do believe that it is a narrative trick to make the story appear more fresh to the viewers. In its core, it still follows the main idea of Hollywood screenwriting model, which is based on the plot and active characters that take action. Last, although the story itself does not necessarily celebrates possibility over adversity, it is still a story of transformation to some degree (both MC each find their own happiness and place).
I absolutely loved the screenplay. It kept me very engaged the whole time and I appreciated the stylistics notes that were added. In addition, I really enjoyed the pacing and how the writers were able to introduce some of the characters' traits by adding small visual details. For example, when Herbie was painting and his mother called (he slowly changed the color from blue to black to reflect his internal state). In case of Hannah, the toys taking up all the space on her bed was a subtle way of showing how she can be pushed around and does not fight for her comfort or place (even with objects). In addition, I did not struggle imagining the screenplay as a film in my head, which is another indicator that the author did a good job in being clear in her description.
I was pretty torn in categorizing this screenplay and thought there were elements of both Hollywood and independent, but I ultimately decided that this is an independent model screenplay. First, neither Hannah nor Herbie were actively pursuing a goal. Hannah was just upset with her situation at school and Herbie was lonely, but neither were particularly driven to make a change. The screenplay also seemed to have very specific visual cues to it, giving it an artistic point of view. There was an unconventional point of view because it's told from both Hannah and Herbie's views, switching back and forth and telling the audience more information than the other character knows. Also, the ending is pretty open-ended, a key mark of independent screenplays. At first I didn't like the screenplay as I was reading it because I thought it was going to take some weird, uncomfortable turn, but luckily it didn't. I liked the element of the letters as a way for Herbie and Hannah to communicate and that through those letters, even though they never met, they are both able to find something that was missing in their lives. I thought it had a strong voice and the characters were believable and relatable. They were also quite original. In some other screenplays we've read, some of the characters seemed stereotypical and cliche, but none of these characters did.
After much thought I believe that this script follows the Hollywood Model. Both of the main character--Herbie and Hannah--are can do characters. Both individuals are described as very distant and isolated from people. These individuals do try and fix their current situations, it may not have been very evident, but they did go about it. Even though Herbie and Hannah never actually physically met each other they were still able to grow close through writing post cards to one another. The plot was unique, it mostly followed the daily lives of Hannah and Herbie. It was actually well done to the point where it felt that there was an actual plot. These characters solve their problem of isolation through these post cards and at the same time these characters get a sense of confidence after exchanging postcards. These characters end up overcoming their difficulties and end creating relationships; Hannah connects with JJ and Herbie connects with Adele. The story ends on a happy note with the characters overcoming their problems.
I liked this screenplay. It was simple to understand and I really liked the way interaction between the two characters was displayed. They never seen the each other face to face, but they were able to connect through post cards. It is a very unique way to tell a story.
I think this screenplay follows the independent model. Lena's Spaghetti's fits the independent genre of being realistic and melodramatic. The screenplay also isn't focused on plot development, but rather follows the two main characters Herbie and Hannah in their day to day lives. This allows the reader (or viewer) to make sense of their actions, instead of focussing on where the story is going. Both main characters do face challenges, but they seem minor and the characters aren't "can-do" in trying to overcome these obstacles. There is a plot, but without the unique characters and imagery, it would be a pretty bland story in my opinion. I think the ending did have resolution, though, which doesn't always happened in the independent model. I appreciated the happy endings for the main characters.
I really enjoyed this screenplay. It was beautifully written which painted a beautiful picture in my head- so I can imagine the film is just as visually appealing. Also, I really like that Herbie and Hannah could help each other through minors slumps in their being, but also that they found more appropriate people for long term companionship.
I think this is definitely the independent model for a number of reasons. First of all, the story has more than one MC. Like we discussed in class, most screenplays that follow the lives of more than one main character are more often than not the independent model. Besides that, both of our characters lack a serious can do attitude. They both have goals, but are not doing everything in their power to achieve that goal. In this screenplay, we are more observing the interactions between two strangers. This leads to a lack of plot, although there are more plot points than in the last independent screenplay we read last week, and lets the audience focus on the characters and not where the story is ultimately going. Unusual of the independent model, this screenplay had a more resolved ending for both main characters.
I liked this screenplay, I was ultimately hooked reading it trying to figure out why it was called "Lena's Spaghetti." I think the characters were interesting and the imagery in the script was great and really helped me visualize what was going on. I think this could have easily crossed a pervy line, but was perfectly tasteful regarding an ultimately inappropriate relationship between two struggling people.
Though at first I wanted to say that Lena's Spaghetti followed the Hollywood model, I believe that it actually follows an independent model. Why I finally changed my mind was because Herbert and Hannah do take action but it is nothing out of character or different for them. Herbert is use to mail and postcards, so him putting out a personal ad for a pen pal is an easily step. Same goes for Hannah, she hard already begun to create Lena as her alter ego. They both removed the level of human intimacy and contact that they so badly craved from the relationship. The screenplay is focused on the imagery and emotions. There is no blatantly plot or action. Lena's Spaghetti is driven by ideas not by actions.
I liked the screenplay. It reminded me of one of my favorite movies, Lars and the Real Girl. It could have easily become cringeworthy and uncomfortably inappropriate but it remained innocent. The visual details the writer included really added depth to the characters.
I want to say that "Lena's Spaghetti" is a Hollywood model screenplay. Although the main characters' goals aren't outwardly expressed, it's clear that both Herbie & Hannah ("Lena") are writing to each other to fill a hole that is present in his/her respective life; it may even be that they aren't aware of this implicit "goal." It may be more visible in the film, but Herbie's painting actually resembles Adele more than anyone, which conveys his love interest/"goal." Through the bus scenes that show Hannah's difficulty in getting along with the new classmates, the author conveys that she is in need of a friend in the new town. The process of "filling" in the empty spots is explicit in the plot through the postcard exchange, which strongly hints at a Hollywood model of a screenplay. Yes, when compared to the past screenplays we've read before, this screenplay uses a lot of unconventional ways of telling the story. However, I feel that it only strengthens and displays the development of a can-do attitude in both of these once-shy/goal-lacking characters. It's clear that Herbie's role of dissent is clearly shown when he writes to "Lena" that he wants to prove his mother wrong. Hannah's role of dissent is simply evident in her own self going through puberty. Although these two characters never meet in person, that does not necessarily mean that the story hasn't resolved because they have put a closure to whatever imaginary relationship they were in and have finally moved on to finding a person that would possibly fill the void in their lives.
I really liked this screenplay because I felt that it had a very soft tone in writing, and I was able to picture the film as I was reading the screenplay, thanks to the detailed/unique directions. The use of VO's was very clever and effective. In terms of plot, I would also have to say this may be my favorite screenplay of the three.
This screenplay was very confusing to identify. I believe it is the independent model for the following reasons: -multiple main characters -neither are can-do -focus on character relation instead of action However, there are elements to this screenplay that certainly fall under the Hollywood model. I believe it has three acts, and there is (eventually) a clear plot to the story. Both characters are seeking companionship, and their stories somewhat parallel each other. There is a clear direction that this story was heading instead of the last screenplay that was hard to predict. The structure of dialogue and "showing" was very unique and that may be why it is so hard to identify. If I had to choose, I would say that Lena's Spaghetti follows the independent model, especially with how visually detailed it is. I really liked the story and structure and hope we end up watching it in class.
I think it's hollywood model just because the characters are pushed to take action. The plot is kind of mild but it does guide the story/characters along. Both characters are kind of underdog can/doers. As passive as they are, you still root for them. It does also seem to have a three act structure. I pictured it having kind of artsy Juno vibes which makes it seem independent but even Juno is a hollywood model (i think).
I liked it. I love a good love story between two weirdos. It's very visual which makes it enjoyable. I thought the writer did a good job of externalizing such an internal dialogue between the two characters.
I think this screenplay is an independent model because the character Hannah and Herbie both don't strive for a goal they just go about their lives. Herbie was trying to find a woman but he never put in the effort at it until his mother pushed him to and even then he went about it passively.The story follows Herbie and Hannah's post cards to each other throughout these post cards there was nothing dramatic or anything much going on. Because the story didn't follow much plot and it was somewhat a day to day life of the two main characters it follows the independent screenplay model.
I likes this screenplay the most out of all of them. I was engaged the whole time and thought that having two main characters helped me keep an interest. Also i thought it was interesting that the characters only talked through post cards.
Lena’s Spaghetti follows the Hollywood Model because there is a main character with a goal. Although there are two active characters, I think the main character is Herbie. Herbie, has a goal of finding someone who will write him or a love interest. Herbie is a 33 year old man whose mother really wants him to find a woman. His mother tries playing matchmaker for him, but he refuses to call the girl who recently got a divorce. Through his usual routine of reading postcards between lovers, he realizes that he wants someone to write him. The screenplay definitely has a plot which is a man who is desperately seeking a penpal and gets fooled by a bored young girl. Herbie transforms into a more reasonable man when he asks out the other woman, Adele. Lastly, I think it follows a three act structure. First, it starts out with Herbie reading the love letters, his mother bothering him about and witnessing a proposal. This then prompts him to act which is shown when he talks to Clark about . I think the second act begins with the fair scene with Hannah and then shows the exchange of letter between Hannah and Herbie . Finally the third act is when Lena ends it and Herbie asks Adele out. The screenplay has a solution which is that they both find real relationships with people their own age.
I enjoyed this screenplay because I liked how the screenwriter tied the two characters together. It was unexpected and humorous. I wanted to see how long Hannah was going to keep writing Herbie. There were also hints about Adele which made me think that there was a possibility of Herbie and Adele getting together. The screenplay was easy to follow and entertaining. The screenwriter does a really good job with showing and not telling through the characters’ dialogue.
While this screenplay has elements of both an independent and Hollywood model screenplay, I think it more closely resembles a Hollywood model. The main deciding factors for me were the characteristic and actions of the MC, Herbie. While some of my classmates think that there is no clear goal, I think without the goal of finding a love interest, Herbie would not have taken the actions that he did (putting an ad in the personal section, asking out other women). While Herbie doesn’t really have a “must-achieve” attitude towards his goal, it still ultimately defines many of his actions. In my mind, as I was reading the screenplay, I was definitely “rooting for the underdog”.
This screenplay was really easy to follow even in the different cuts from scene to scene and the voiceovers. The way all the characters weaved together really brought out a lot of new information about their personalities and why they made the decisions they made. It was really refreshing to read something that wasn’t a cliche comedic love story.
This is a tough one. I'm leaning more towards independent because although there is a plot, I feel like the character layers are more of what drives this film's narrative. The other key thing that makes this independent to me is that we are observing the story unfold from more of an omniscient POV (at one point, I was rooting for Adele just as much as I was Herbie). Although this screenplay straddles the line between the independent and hollywood models, I'm going with independent. Its realist based, stylized relationships and unconventional storytelling tip the scale for me.
I liked this script a lot, especially compared to the last one we read. It did a good job of telling two stories simultaneously and managed a lot of characters well for such a short script. I also think she did a good job of balancing narrative economy and narrative excess; I never felt that the story was moving too slowly or too quickly. And even though I disagree with Tori on most things, I do also love a good love story between two weirdos.
I think that this screenplay follows the hollywood model. After reading it once and skimming once more, I think that there is a clear yet basic plot that is driving the character action. That being said, I also think that it follows some aspects of the independent model. The story of the writer is told through the character layers but I still think that it mainly follows the Hollywood model. These characters are passive, yet I always found myself pushing for them to progress. I think that the scene where the parents are with Hannah in her room taking her temperature shows a little bit about the character herself is progressing through the story with the plot. Along with that, we see Herbie reading his letter from 'Lena' and growing in this pen pal relationship but then also at the end when he is talking with Adele. Herbie is this kind of nerdy 33 year old who is just trying to make his way through this relationship and when it doesn't turn out like he expected, he realizes what has been in front of his the whole time. The two characters work with each other as well as the plot so I think that this screenplay is a mixture of BOTH!
I liked this screenplay because it was quirky and really visual. I think it is a really good example of the show don't tell rule. The two characters represented two different yet similar stages in life, which was fun to follow along with.
This screenplay follows the Hollywood model. I believe there are two main characters and they have a can-do character. Herbie is looking for love and Hannah is trying to not be alone. This screenplay follows the three act structure. Act 1 shows Herbie looking at love all around him and Hannah is bullied on her way home on the bus. Act 2 is the decision to write to each other and then Hannah's decision to cut it off. Act 3 shows them achieving their goal as Herbie asks Adele out and Hannah makes a friend on the bus.
I enjoyed reading the screenplay. I thought it was interesting to see two characters struggle with a problem and resolve it in the end by instilling confidence in each other through the letters. I also found it a very interesting story as a child is a pen pal to an older adult. Overall, the screenplay read well and it was easy to follow both stories.
It seems like this screenplay has some features of both and independent and Hollywood model, but overall while reading it, it felt more like an independent model to me. To start, the screenplay uses more visuals than action to progress. Instead of blatant action scenes, the screenplay just follows a steady back and forth as the letters are being written. Another key point that makes me think of the screenplay as an independent model is the fact that the characters are both marginalized in society. Maybe not in the sense that their rights are being thwarted, but rather more of an every day marginalization. They just feel like no one can understand them. I believe that through out the screenplay we're just observing Herbie and Hannah. There's nothing quite that makes us connect with them like a Hollywood model would do. Another element that makes me lean toward an independent model is the ending of the screenplay. Although some may see Hannah going off with a friend and Herbie asking Adele out, I don't think this is necessarily wrapping it up because it still leaves the audience with an ambiguous conclusion. Voice is important for an independent model and I think in this case there are just two voices that drive the story. Overall, I can see how this could be seen as a Hollywood model, but in the end I believe more elements make it an independent model.
I don't think I was the biggest fan of this screenplay. Although I do believe it was a good premise, while I was reading I couldn't help but feel that Herbie was just a greasy, pervert and Hannah was a frustrating kid not paying attention to clear red flags. Once I get past that aspect though, I like the screenplay in the sense that although for me it was an inappropriate relationship they pushed each other to grow. Thankfully Herbie and Hannah parted ways and they were able to find what the two of them actually needed.
In my opinion this screenplay is a hollywood model. Both characters start sad and lonely, but by the end they have each grown. Both of the characters, although at different points in their lives, have goals. Herb needs a woman to love and Lena needs a friend. Herb is an active character in that he posts a personal ad in the newspaper to try to find a woman. Lena is also active because she responded to the ad. Their relationship through letters broke both characters out of their comfort zones and gave each of them confidence. In the end Lena got the confidence to stand up to the mean boy and Herb asked out Adele. There is a 3-act structure here of the characters feeling lonely and lost, then connecting and writing to each other, and then going their separate ways and connecting with people in real life.
I really liked this screenplay. I cared for the characters and wanted them both to be happy. Both started out very passive, but they gained confidence and became bold. Especially Hannah, I loved the scene where she told the mean boys off in the school bus. Overall I really enjoyed it and was captivated and invested the whole time.
I think that this films follows the Independent model. As readers we follow two different characters throughout their own personal lives. Though they have their own personal lives, they are connected through a series of letters and paintings which eventually help them find their own identities. Because we follow multiple story lines, the screenplay focuses a lot on character development which leads me to believe that it is an independent model even though there is action that helps the characters find themselves. I also feel that we are observing the characters more than following them throughout the story. The characters also have no set goals in their lives. Though Hannah wants friends, it wasn't a set goal that she had towards the beginning of the screenplay. She was more accepting of her situation and didn't actively do anything to change that. It just happened. Similarly, the same thing happened with Herbie. He wasn't necessarily looking for love, and potentially found it in Adele.
Overall, I loved this screenplay. Although it was a little weird, I wanted the characters to find happiness, and I was really rooting for them throughout the whole screenplay. I also think it was a great coming of age story for Hannah. As someone who struggled with friends at a young age, I found it very relatable.
After reading the script it was hard to decide whether or not the model followed an independent form or a Hollywood form screenplay. There are many independent elements such as observing the actions of the main characters and getting to observe the different character layers more than the actual plot. The film also possesses Hollywood elements since there is clearly a plot which has main characters that each have clear goals of finding companionship.
Though the play has features from both I would argue more so that it fits the independent model. Because of the way the story ends and the fact that our two MC's never actually meet leads me to believe that it is more of an independent model. The character layer seems to drive the story more so than the plot does and overall there are more independent elements. In general I liked the film even though some elements were a bit creepy or weird since we have an older man finding love through mail with a young girl. I thought the film was very intriguing because it was very different.
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I strongly believe that this script follows the Hollywood model. The story follows two people and their similar personal struggles, and how their relationship helps them overcome their problems. The characters while not always the happiest are can do characters in that they actively attempt to solve their problem, through their letters. The plot challenges the characters because the relationship building between the main characters is fantastical. If the relationship became more than letters it would quickly become a disturbing movie. Instead the characters learn that the relationship has to end but they can use their experience and reinvigorated morale to solve their current problems. The script ends on a positive note with our MC's overcoming their difficulties and building real relationships: Hannah with JJ and Herbie with Adele. The story follows the three act structure quite strongly as well. The first act ends when Hannah sees the personal ad and the second act ends when she realizes she needs to end the relationship.
This was, in my opinion, the best screenplay we've read. It has good pacing and is clear and enjoyable to read. Character development is finely balanced between dialogue and actions/ descriptions. There is little to no wasted dialogue. The story is always moving towards its conclusion. One of the few things that had me confused (perhaps just due to a lack of my own formatting knowledge) was the End Credits note on the second page. I spent the next few scenes confused and thinking more about that then what was currently going on. I personally find the last scene with the girls playing with the soccer ball in the street to be a bit too quick of a transition relative to the pacing of other events and a bit cheesy.
I think the script follows the independent model. Neither Hannah nor Herbie are particularly can do characters, striving to reach their own ending. Hannah doesn't go looking for being Herbie's pen pal but stumbles across it in the paper, if anything her initial goal would be to return home, or to get Adam's attention. She only writes him to have someone to talk to, it's not as if she is looking to fix all her problems by writing him. Same goes for Herbie. He just wants mail, he is not thinking this will end in him getting a date with Adele and being a more inspired painter. The film also follows the independent structure act wise, it is about half act 1 and half act 2. Act 1 is not the set up of a problem which the main characters realize they need to solve, but simply the showing of their lives. Also, the film like many independent films has a visual art feeling, with not very much dialogue, a focus on particular visuals tells a lot about the story. The focus is not on plot but character development, although there is of course a plot.
I think this script is definitely an independent model. The screenplay switches back and forth between Herbie and Hannahs story lines. There is no clear, distinct goal for both of them, it is only assumed that they both want a friend. Though this was achieved, the main point of the story was that the two of them gained an inherent sense of confidence from being pen pals. Both utilize the pen pal situation for different reasons. I really really enjoyed this screenplay. I thought it was cute and kept the reader interested throughout the entire screenplay. I am really excited to watch the actual film.
I believe this script follows the independent model. First, neither of the main characters were the can-do character type. Herbie wasn't actively searching for a new woman in his life and Hannah turned to being in solitude rather than actively searching for a new friend. Neither them were completely goal oriented-either. Sure, Herbie's goal was to find a woman, but he didn't do anything about it until his mother pushed him to and when he did set out to complete his goal, it was in a passive way, inviting women to mail him first. The story wasn't dominated by plot either. Sure, Hannah's world was changed when she moved, but that new limitation didn't cause her to become a hero. The story mostly followed Herbie and Hannah's post cards to each other and showed their daily lives without anything spectacular or overdramatic happening. The primary influences here were painting and writing, which follow the typical independent model.
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I actually liked this screenplay. It was clever and kept me interested to wonder what would happen next. I really like how detailed this screenplay was and how even the music notes gave insight into the feelings of the scenes and let the reader know exactly what to expect. Interested to see how it turned out based on her notes.
This screenplay follows the independent model. The main characters Hannah and Herb lack specific goals. In fact, Herb is hiding from the adversity of putting himself out there in person to meet women, much to his mother's dismay, while Hannah is hiding from the adversity of facing her peers, like Adam, to make friends. Herb is only motivated to search for a woman when his mom begins to bother him enough, even going so far as to suggesting dates with specific women. Hannah is only motivated to search for a pen pal when she cannot make any friends of her own; she would rather be in solitude than comradeship. The audience merely watches them avoid challenges rather than tackling them. There is a lack of plot or organized events. Herb and Hannah go about their daily lives without much change than the postcards that they exchange.
Out of the three screenplays, I admired this one the most. Although there appeared to be a resolution, it was mostly implied, leaving the audience to their imaginations. I also liked how it did not focus on one character but two and their stories. Although they never interacted together aside from postcards, I grew to understand their personalities and characters.
Although not as easy to distinguish at first, I believe Lena's Spaghetti falls under the Hollywood model screenplay. Both characters seem to be relatively goal-oriented and do take action. Herbie becomes a hero by stepping outside of his comfort zone and placing an ad in the paper; and Hannah becomes a hero by seizing the opportunity and replying to him. The screenplay also has a clear 3-act structure which was very easy to identify (at least in my mind). In addition, the story is mainly plot driven, although the characters themselves do play a very important part. What could have been confusing to some (and a reason a few people might recognize it as an independent model) is the fact that both characters seem to be very sad and passive in some regard. They are shown as outsiders, which is not typically how we would imagine a Hollywood model screenplay character. However, I do believe that it is a narrative trick to make the story appear more fresh to the viewers. In its core, it still follows the main idea of Hollywood screenwriting model, which is based on the plot and active characters that take action. Last, although the story itself does not necessarily celebrates possibility over adversity, it is still a story of transformation to some degree (both MC each find their own happiness and place).
I absolutely loved the screenplay. It kept me very engaged the whole time and I appreciated the stylistics notes that were added. In addition, I really enjoyed the pacing and how the writers were able to introduce some of the characters' traits by adding small visual details. For example, when Herbie was painting and his mother called (he slowly changed the color from blue to black to reflect his internal state). In case of Hannah, the toys taking up all the space on her bed was a subtle way of showing how she can be pushed around and does not fight for her comfort or place (even with objects). In addition, I did not struggle imagining the screenplay as a film in my head, which is another indicator that the author did a good job in being clear in her description.
I was pretty torn in categorizing this screenplay and thought there were elements of both Hollywood and independent, but I ultimately decided that this is an independent model screenplay. First, neither Hannah nor Herbie were actively pursuing a goal. Hannah was just upset with her situation at school and Herbie was lonely, but neither were particularly driven to make a change. The screenplay also seemed to have very specific visual cues to it, giving it an artistic point of view. There was an unconventional point of view because it's told from both Hannah and Herbie's views, switching back and forth and telling the audience more information than the other character knows. Also, the ending is pretty open-ended, a key mark of independent screenplays.
At first I didn't like the screenplay as I was reading it because I thought it was going to take some weird, uncomfortable turn, but luckily it didn't. I liked the element of the letters as a way for Herbie and Hannah to communicate and that through those letters, even though they never met, they are both able to find something that was missing in their lives. I thought it had a strong voice and the characters were believable and relatable. They were also quite original. In some other screenplays we've read, some of the characters seemed stereotypical and cliche, but none of these characters did.
After much thought I believe that this script follows the Hollywood Model. Both of the main character--Herbie and Hannah--are can do characters. Both individuals are described as very distant and isolated from people. These individuals do try and fix their current situations, it may not have been very evident, but they did go about it. Even though Herbie and Hannah never actually physically met each other they were still able to grow close through writing post cards to one another. The plot was unique, it mostly followed the daily lives of Hannah and Herbie. It was actually well done to the point where it felt that there was an actual plot. These characters solve their problem of isolation through these post cards and at the same time these characters get a sense of confidence after exchanging postcards. These characters end up overcoming their difficulties and end creating relationships; Hannah connects with JJ and Herbie connects with Adele. The story ends on a happy note with the characters overcoming their problems.
I liked this screenplay. It was simple to understand and I really liked the way interaction between the two characters was displayed. They never seen the each other face to face, but they were able to connect through post cards. It is a very unique way to tell a story.
I think this screenplay follows the independent model. Lena's Spaghetti's fits the independent genre of being realistic and melodramatic. The screenplay also isn't focused on plot development, but rather follows the two main characters Herbie and Hannah in their day to day lives. This allows the reader (or viewer) to make sense of their actions, instead of focussing on where the story is going. Both main characters do face challenges, but they seem minor and the characters aren't "can-do" in trying to overcome these obstacles. There is a plot, but without the unique characters and imagery, it would be a pretty bland story in my opinion. I think the ending did have resolution, though, which doesn't always happened in the independent model. I appreciated the happy endings for the main characters.
I really enjoyed this screenplay. It was beautifully written which painted a beautiful picture in my head- so I can imagine the film is just as visually appealing. Also, I really like that Herbie and Hannah could help each other through minors slumps in their being, but also that they found more appropriate people for long term companionship.
I think this is definitely the independent model for a number of reasons. First of all, the story has more than one MC. Like we discussed in class, most screenplays that follow the lives of more than one main character are more often than not the independent model. Besides that, both of our characters lack a serious can do attitude. They both have goals, but are not doing everything in their power to achieve that goal. In this screenplay, we are more observing the interactions between two strangers. This leads to a lack of plot, although there are more plot points than in the last independent screenplay we read last week, and lets the audience focus on the characters and not where the story is ultimately going. Unusual of the independent model, this screenplay had a more resolved ending for both main characters.
I liked this screenplay, I was ultimately hooked reading it trying to figure out why it was called "Lena's Spaghetti." I think the characters were interesting and the imagery in the script was great and really helped me visualize what was going on. I think this could have easily crossed a pervy line, but was perfectly tasteful regarding an ultimately inappropriate relationship between two struggling people.
Though at first I wanted to say that Lena's Spaghetti followed the Hollywood model, I believe that it actually follows an independent model. Why I finally changed my mind was because Herbert and Hannah do take action but it is nothing out of character or different for them. Herbert is use to mail and postcards, so him putting out a personal ad for a pen pal is an easily step. Same goes for Hannah, she hard already begun to create Lena as her alter ego. They both removed the level of human intimacy and contact that they so badly craved from the relationship. The screenplay is focused on the imagery and emotions. There is no blatantly plot or action. Lena's Spaghetti is driven by ideas not by actions.
I liked the screenplay. It reminded me of one of my favorite movies, Lars and the Real Girl. It could have easily become cringeworthy and uncomfortably inappropriate but it remained innocent. The visual details the writer included really added depth to the characters.
I want to say that "Lena's Spaghetti" is a Hollywood model screenplay. Although the main characters' goals aren't outwardly expressed, it's clear that both Herbie & Hannah ("Lena") are writing to each other to fill a hole that is present in his/her respective life; it may even be that they aren't aware of this implicit "goal." It may be more visible in the film, but Herbie's painting actually resembles Adele more than anyone, which conveys his love interest/"goal." Through the bus scenes that show Hannah's difficulty in getting along with the new classmates, the author conveys that she is in need of a friend in the new town. The process of "filling" in the empty spots is explicit in the plot through the postcard exchange, which strongly hints at a Hollywood model of a screenplay. Yes, when compared to the past screenplays we've read before, this screenplay uses a lot of unconventional ways of telling the story. However, I feel that it only strengthens and displays the development of a can-do attitude in both of these once-shy/goal-lacking characters. It's clear that Herbie's role of dissent is clearly shown when he writes to "Lena" that he wants to prove his mother wrong. Hannah's role of dissent is simply evident in her own self going through puberty. Although these two characters never meet in person, that does not necessarily mean that the story hasn't resolved because they have put a closure to whatever imaginary relationship they were in and have finally moved on to finding a person that would possibly fill the void in their lives.
I really liked this screenplay because I felt that it had a very soft tone in writing, and I was able to picture the film as I was reading the screenplay, thanks to the detailed/unique directions. The use of VO's was very clever and effective. In terms of plot, I would also have to say this may be my favorite screenplay of the three.
This screenplay was very confusing to identify. I believe it is the independent model for the following reasons:
-multiple main characters
-neither are can-do
-focus on character relation instead of action
However, there are elements to this screenplay that certainly fall under the Hollywood model. I believe it has three acts, and there is (eventually) a clear plot to the story. Both characters are seeking companionship, and their stories somewhat parallel each other. There is a clear direction that this story was heading instead of the last screenplay that was hard to predict. The structure of dialogue and "showing" was very unique and that may be why it is so hard to identify.
If I had to choose, I would say that Lena's Spaghetti follows the independent model, especially with how visually detailed it is. I really liked the story and structure and hope we end up watching it in class.
I think it's hollywood model just because the characters are pushed to take action. The plot is kind of mild but it does guide the story/characters along. Both characters are kind of underdog can/doers. As passive as they are, you still root for them. It does also seem to have a three act structure. I pictured it having kind of artsy Juno vibes which makes it seem independent but even Juno is a hollywood model (i think).
I liked it. I love a good love story between two weirdos. It's very visual which makes it enjoyable. I thought the writer did a good job of externalizing such an internal dialogue between the two characters.
I think this screenplay is an independent model because the character Hannah and Herbie both don't strive for a goal they just go about their lives. Herbie was trying to find a woman but he never put in the effort at it until his mother pushed him to and even then he went about it passively.The story follows Herbie and Hannah's post cards to each other throughout these post cards there was nothing dramatic or anything much going on. Because the story didn't follow much plot and it was somewhat a day to day life of the two main characters it follows the independent screenplay model.
I likes this screenplay the most out of all of them. I was engaged the whole time and thought that having two main characters helped me keep an interest. Also i thought it was interesting that the characters only talked through post cards.
Lena’s Spaghetti follows the Hollywood Model because there is a main character with a goal. Although there are two active characters, I think the main character is Herbie. Herbie, has a goal of finding someone who will write him or a love interest. Herbie is a 33 year old man whose mother really wants him to find a woman. His mother tries playing matchmaker for him, but he refuses to call the girl who recently got a divorce. Through his usual routine of reading postcards between lovers, he realizes that he wants someone to write him. The screenplay definitely has a plot which is a man who is desperately seeking a penpal and gets fooled by a bored young girl. Herbie transforms into a more reasonable man when he asks out the other woman, Adele. Lastly, I think it follows a three act structure. First, it starts out with Herbie reading the love letters, his mother bothering him about and witnessing a proposal. This then prompts him to act which is shown when he talks to Clark about . I think the second act begins with the fair scene with Hannah and then shows the exchange of letter between Hannah and Herbie . Finally the third act is when Lena ends it and Herbie asks Adele out. The screenplay has a solution which is that they both find real relationships with people their own age.
I enjoyed this screenplay because I liked how the screenwriter tied the two characters together. It was unexpected and humorous. I wanted to see how long Hannah was going to keep writing Herbie. There were also hints about Adele which made me think that there was a possibility of Herbie and Adele getting together. The screenplay was easy to follow and entertaining. The screenwriter does a really good job with showing and not telling through the characters’ dialogue.
While this screenplay has elements of both an independent and Hollywood model screenplay, I think it more closely resembles a Hollywood model. The main deciding factors for me were the characteristic and actions of the MC, Herbie. While some of my classmates think that there is no clear goal, I think without the goal of finding a love interest, Herbie would not have taken the actions that he did (putting an ad in the personal section, asking out other women). While Herbie doesn’t really have a “must-achieve” attitude towards his goal, it still ultimately defines many of his actions. In my mind, as I was reading the screenplay, I was definitely “rooting for the underdog”.
This screenplay was really easy to follow even in the different cuts from scene to scene and the voiceovers. The way all the characters weaved together really brought out a lot of new information about their personalities and why they made the decisions they made. It was really refreshing to read something that wasn’t a cliche comedic love story.
This is a tough one. I'm leaning more towards independent because although there is a plot, I feel like the character layers are more of what drives this film's narrative. The other key thing that makes this independent to me is that we are observing the story unfold from more of an omniscient POV (at one point, I was rooting for Adele just as much as I was Herbie). Although this screenplay straddles the line between the independent and hollywood models, I'm going with independent. Its realist based, stylized relationships and unconventional storytelling tip the scale for me.
I liked this script a lot, especially compared to the last one we read. It did a good job of telling two stories simultaneously and managed a lot of characters well for such a short script. I also think she did a good job of balancing narrative economy and narrative excess; I never felt that the story was moving too slowly or too quickly. And even though I disagree with Tori on most things, I do also love a good love story between two weirdos.
I think that this screenplay follows the hollywood model. After reading it once and skimming once more, I think that there is a clear yet basic plot that is driving the character action. That being said, I also think that it follows some aspects of the independent model. The story of the writer is told through the character layers but I still think that it mainly follows the Hollywood model. These characters are passive, yet I always found myself pushing for them to progress. I think that the scene where the parents are with Hannah in her room taking her temperature shows a little bit about the character herself is progressing through the story with the plot. Along with that, we see Herbie reading his letter from 'Lena' and growing in this pen pal relationship but then also at the end when he is talking with Adele. Herbie is this kind of nerdy 33 year old who is just trying to make his way through this relationship and when it doesn't turn out like he expected, he realizes what has been in front of his the whole time. The two characters work with each other as well as the plot so I think that this screenplay is a mixture of BOTH!
I liked this screenplay because it was quirky and really visual. I think it is a really good example of the show don't tell rule. The two characters represented two different yet similar stages in life, which was fun to follow along with.
This screenplay follows the Hollywood model. I believe there are two main characters and they have a can-do character. Herbie is looking for love and Hannah is trying to not be alone. This screenplay follows the three act structure. Act 1 shows Herbie looking at love all around him and Hannah is bullied on her way home on the bus. Act 2 is the decision to write to each other and then Hannah's decision to cut it off. Act 3 shows them achieving their goal as Herbie asks Adele out and Hannah makes a friend on the bus.
I enjoyed reading the screenplay. I thought it was interesting to see two characters struggle with a problem and resolve it in the end by instilling confidence in each other through the letters. I also found it a very interesting story as a child is a pen pal to an older adult. Overall, the screenplay read well and it was easy to follow both stories.
It seems like this screenplay has some features of both and independent and Hollywood model, but overall while reading it, it felt more like an independent model to me. To start, the screenplay uses more visuals than action to progress. Instead of blatant action scenes, the screenplay just follows a steady back and forth as the letters are being written. Another key point that makes me think of the screenplay as an independent model is the fact that the characters are both marginalized in society. Maybe not in the sense that their rights are being thwarted, but rather more of an every day marginalization. They just feel like no one can understand them. I believe that through out the screenplay we're just observing Herbie and Hannah. There's nothing quite that makes us connect with them like a Hollywood model would do. Another element that makes me lean toward an independent model is the ending of the screenplay. Although some may see Hannah going off with a friend and Herbie asking Adele out, I don't think this is necessarily wrapping it up because it still leaves the audience with an ambiguous conclusion. Voice is important for an independent model and I think in this case there are just two voices that drive the story. Overall, I can see how this could be seen as a Hollywood model, but in the end I believe more elements make it an independent model.
I don't think I was the biggest fan of this screenplay. Although I do believe it was a good premise, while I was reading I couldn't help but feel that Herbie was just a greasy, pervert and Hannah was a frustrating kid not paying attention to clear red flags. Once I get past that aspect though, I like the screenplay in the sense that although for me it was an inappropriate relationship they pushed each other to grow. Thankfully Herbie and Hannah parted ways and they were able to find what the two of them actually needed.
In my opinion this screenplay is a hollywood model. Both characters start sad and lonely, but by the end they have each grown. Both of the characters, although at different points in their lives, have goals. Herb needs a woman to love and Lena needs a friend. Herb is an active character in that he posts a personal ad in the newspaper to try to find a woman. Lena is also active because she responded to the ad. Their relationship through letters broke both characters out of their comfort zones and gave each of them confidence. In the end Lena got the confidence to stand up to the mean boy and Herb asked out Adele. There is a 3-act structure here of the characters feeling lonely and lost, then connecting and writing to each other, and then going their separate ways and connecting with people in real life.
I really liked this screenplay. I cared for the characters and wanted them both to be happy. Both started out very passive, but they gained confidence and became bold. Especially Hannah, I loved the scene where she told the mean boys off in the school bus. Overall I really enjoyed it and was captivated and invested the whole time.
I think that this films follows the Independent model. As readers we follow two different characters throughout their own personal lives. Though they have their own personal lives, they are connected through a series of letters and paintings which eventually help them find their own identities. Because we follow multiple story lines, the screenplay focuses a lot on character development which leads me to believe that it is an independent model even though there is action that helps the characters find themselves. I also feel that we are observing the characters more than following them throughout the story. The characters also have no set goals in their lives. Though Hannah wants friends, it wasn't a set goal that she had towards the beginning of the screenplay. She was more accepting of her situation and didn't actively do anything to change that. It just happened. Similarly, the same thing happened with Herbie. He wasn't necessarily looking for love, and potentially found it in Adele.
Overall, I loved this screenplay. Although it was a little weird, I wanted the characters to find happiness, and I was really rooting for them throughout the whole screenplay. I also think it was a great coming of age story for Hannah. As someone who struggled with friends at a young age, I found it very relatable.
After reading the script it was hard to decide whether or not the model followed an independent form or a Hollywood form screenplay. There are many independent elements such as observing the actions of the main characters and getting to observe the different character layers more than the actual plot. The film also possesses Hollywood elements since there is clearly a plot which has main characters that each have clear goals of finding companionship.
Though the play has features from both I would argue more so that it fits the independent model. Because of the way the story ends and the fact that our two MC's never actually meet leads me to believe that it is more of an independent model. The character layer seems to drive the story more so than the plot does and overall there are more independent elements. In general I liked the film even though some elements were a bit creepy or weird since we have an older man finding love through mail with a young girl. I thought the film was very intriguing because it was very different.
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